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		<title>By: Steve Killen</title>
		<link>http://jeffcovey.net/2005/05/31/thoughts-about-riding-the-bus-and-train/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Killen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve just secured a bike and gotten it working. Today marks my second day commuting to work on it :)  I still take the bus if I have to be somewhere in clean shape, though; I sweat like a faucet.  Even taking a change of clothes doesn&#039;t gaurantee a shower at your destination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just secured a bike and gotten it working. Today marks my second day commuting to work on it <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I still take the bus if I have to be somewhere in clean shape, though; I sweat like a faucet.  Even taking a change of clothes doesn&#8217;t gaurantee a shower at your destination.</p>
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		<title>By: jon winston</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon winston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahh, and that&#039;s where biking comes in. When you bike you can estimate
your arrival time to within three minutes. Every time, without fail.
Congestion, red lights and bad weather have no bearing whatsoever on
your travel time. All you have to do is leave the house on time.

Two more advantages (among many others):


You don&#039;t have to sit next to drunks or people that smell bad but you
   do get to talk with other cyclists at red lights. You also get to see
   and greet the same people every day.
You get exercise without paying money and time to drive to a gym.


More tips on my podcast! See the blog!

-jon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, and that&#8217;s where biking comes in. When you bike you can estimate<br />
your arrival time to within three minutes. Every time, without fail.<br />
Congestion, red lights and bad weather have no bearing whatsoever on<br />
your travel time. All you have to do is leave the house on time.</p>
<p>Two more advantages (among many others):</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to sit next to drunks or people that smell bad but you<br />
   do get to talk with other cyclists at red lights. You also get to see<br />
   and greet the same people every day.<br />
You get exercise without paying money and time to drive to a gym.</p>
<p>More tips on my podcast! See the blog!</p>
<p>-jon</p>
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		<title>By: jeff covey</title>
		<link>http://jeffcovey.net/2005/05/31/thoughts-about-riding-the-bus-and-train/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeff covey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[    phil!        secondly,        &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;  When you drive, you have a great deal more control over when you arrive  at your destination.  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;        yes, and you can stay out later on sunday nights.  the many  disadvantages are obvious; i just wanted to celebrate some of the  benefits.        &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;  Baltimore has two train lines.  Not only do they not go where you want,  they&#039;re probably not even close.  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;        i like the light rail.  for me, it&#039;s a 20-30 minute walk to the  linthicum station, then i have fairly frequent service to anywhere i  want to go in the heart of the city, and easy connections to the bus  lines.  the bwi and penn station stops are great for heading out of  town.  i do wish there was a branch that went to the greyhound station.        and, of course, i wish we had a subway system that wasn&#039;t a joke.        &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;  When you drive, you never have to choose whether to sit next to the guy  that smells like stale beer, the guy that smells like urine, or the guy  that smells like month-old B.O.  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;        you may be going to the wrong places.  :)  the people who ride the 19  with me are 98% clean and considerate.  i suppose you could stand...        i&#039;ve only had two problems with the buses: an occasional saturday trip  with standing room only, and an occasional old and run-down, dark,  rattly bus.  standing for 15 or 20 minutes isn&#039;t so bad, and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newflyer.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new flyer&lt;/a&gt; buses they&#039;ve started  adding as replacements this year are wonderful in both their big design  and their many small details.        &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;  Sometimes, &quot;The bus broke down and the MTA supervisors kept giving us  conflicting information, so I had to wait at the stop for an hour and a  half,&quot; isn&#039;t an acceptable excuse.  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;        hmm, bad.        &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;  an SUV  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;        noooooooooooooooooooo!        &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;  I drive to work because my time is more valuable to me than the  annoyances that would come from trying to use the MTA to get to work  right now.  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;        that&#039;s a bummer.  i&#039;m fortunate in being able to work from home, and  most people can choose to live near their work or work near where they  live, so i still think living carless or with less car is possible for  more people than take advantage of it.        &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;  As an aside, have you looked at the proposed reworking of the MTA&#039;s bus  routes?  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;        steve sent me a link to their page about it.  i wish they had a map of  the entire proposed system so i could get a better feel for it.  i  didn&#039;t see any problems for me personally in the few routes i looked at.        i do hope they can do something to make it easier to travel around the  circumference of the beltway instead of just on the spokes of the wheel.  linthicum to catonsville is a 15 minute drive, but it takes two hours on  the train and bus because i have to go all the way downtown, transfer,  and ride out again.  maybe when i&#039;m 70, i&#039;ll be able to take my walker  onto the east-west light rail line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phil!        secondly,<br />
<blockquote><i>  When you drive, you have a great deal more control over when you arrive  at your destination.  </i></p></blockquote>
<p>        yes, and you can stay out later on sunday nights.  the many  disadvantages are obvious; i just wanted to celebrate some of the  benefits.<br />
<blockquote><i>  Baltimore has two train lines.  Not only do they not go where you want,  they&#8217;re probably not even close.  </i></p></blockquote>
<p>        i like the light rail.  for me, it&#8217;s a 20-30 minute walk to the  linthicum station, then i have fairly frequent service to anywhere i  want to go in the heart of the city, and easy connections to the bus  lines.  the bwi and penn station stops are great for heading out of  town.  i do wish there was a branch that went to the greyhound station.        and, of course, i wish we had a subway system that wasn&#8217;t a joke.<br />
<blockquote><i>  When you drive, you never have to choose whether to sit next to the guy  that smells like stale beer, the guy that smells like urine, or the guy  that smells like month-old B.O.  </i></p></blockquote>
<p>        you may be going to the wrong places.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   the people who ride the 19  with me are 98% clean and considerate.  i suppose you could stand&#8230;        i&#8217;ve only had two problems with the buses: an occasional saturday trip  with standing room only, and an occasional old and run-down, dark,  rattly bus.  standing for 15 or 20 minutes isn&#8217;t so bad, and the <a href="http://www.newflyer.com/" rel="nofollow">new flyer</a> buses they&#8217;ve started  adding as replacements this year are wonderful in both their big design  and their many small details.<br />
<blockquote><i>  Sometimes, &#8220;The bus broke down and the MTA supervisors kept giving us  conflicting information, so I had to wait at the stop for an hour and a  half,&#8221; isn&#8217;t an acceptable excuse.  </i></p></blockquote>
<p>        hmm, bad.<br />
<blockquote><i>  an SUV  </i></p></blockquote>
<p>        noooooooooooooooooooo!<br />
<blockquote><i>  I drive to work because my time is more valuable to me than the  annoyances that would come from trying to use the MTA to get to work  right now.  </i></p></blockquote>
<p>        that&#8217;s a bummer.  i&#8217;m fortunate in being able to work from home, and  most people can choose to live near their work or work near where they  live, so i still think living carless or with less car is possible for  more people than take advantage of it.<br />
<blockquote><i>  As an aside, have you looked at the proposed reworking of the MTA&#8217;s bus  routes?  </i></p></blockquote>
<p>        steve sent me a link to their page about it.  i wish they had a map of  the entire proposed system so i could get a better feel for it.  i  didn&#8217;t see any problems for me personally in the few routes i looked at.        i do hope they can do something to make it easier to travel around the  circumference of the beltway instead of just on the spokes of the wheel.  linthicum to catonsville is a 15 minute drive, but it takes two hours on  the train and bus because i have to go all the way downtown, transfer,  and ride out again.  maybe when i&#8217;m 70, i&#8217;ll be able to take my walker  onto the east-west light rail line.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff covey</title>
		<link>http://jeffcovey.net/2005/05/31/thoughts-about-riding-the-bus-and-train/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeff covey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[    true, relying on public transit requires more planning and leaving  earlier.  on the bright side, &quot;my bus was late&quot; is a more palatable  excuse than &quot;i wasn&#039;t watching the time and left the house late&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true, relying on public transit requires more planning and leaving  earlier.  on the bright side, &#8220;my bus was late&#8221; is a more palatable  excuse than &#8220;i wasn&#8217;t watching the time and left the house late&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you drive, you have a great deal more control over when you arrive at your destination.    Baltimore has two train lines.  Not only do they not go where you want, they&#039;re probably not even close.    When you drive, you never have to choose whether to sit next to the guy that smells like stale beer, the guy that smells like urine, or the guy that smells like month-old B.O.    Sometimes, &quot;The bus broke down and the MTA supervisors kept giving us conflicting information, so I had to wait at the stop for an hour and a half,&quot; isn&#039;t an acceptable excuse.        I like public transportation, in theory.  Baltimore makes me hate it sometimes.  After several carless years, I bought a vehicle (an SUV, no less) last December.  In addition to the purchase price, the car has cost me well over $1000 this year, in gas, maintenance, and repairs.  I drive to work because my time is more valuable to me than the annoyances that would come from trying to use the MTA to get to work right now.  (This is because of the Light Rail double tracking, and the MTA seems very bad with the shuttle bus thing.  I&#039;ll actually go back to public transit once they reopen the Light Rail.)    As an aside, have you looked at the proposed reworking of the MTA&#039;s bus routes?  I&#039;ve got a blog post kicking around in my head with my full reaction, but I&#039;m not incredibly impressed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you drive, you have a great deal more control over when you arrive at your destination.    Baltimore has two train lines.  Not only do they not go where you want, they&#8217;re probably not even close.    When you drive, you never have to choose whether to sit next to the guy that smells like stale beer, the guy that smells like urine, or the guy that smells like month-old B.O.    Sometimes, &#8220;The bus broke down and the MTA supervisors kept giving us conflicting information, so I had to wait at the stop for an hour and a half,&#8221; isn&#8217;t an acceptable excuse.        I like public transportation, in theory.  Baltimore makes me hate it sometimes.  After several carless years, I bought a vehicle (an SUV, no less) last December.  In addition to the purchase price, the car has cost me well over $1000 this year, in gas, maintenance, and repairs.  I drive to work because my time is more valuable to me than the annoyances that would come from trying to use the MTA to get to work right now.  (This is because of the Light Rail double tracking, and the MTA seems very bad with the shuttle bus thing.  I&#8217;ll actually go back to public transit once they reopen the Light Rail.)    As an aside, have you looked at the proposed reworking of the MTA&#8217;s bus routes?  I&#8217;ve got a blog post kicking around in my head with my full reaction, but I&#8217;m not incredibly impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Killen</title>
		<link>http://jeffcovey.net/2005/05/31/thoughts-about-riding-the-bus-and-train/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Killen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The one thing about the public transportation that may be somewhat
lacking compared to a personal car is the ability to get you somewhere
on time.  You can miss the bus; you can&#039;t miss your car.  Granted that
you can get stuck in traffic, lose directions, etc., but using the bus
effectively for non-leisure activities requires a great deal of
planning beforehand.  And I for one suck at that.  Even on my good
days. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing about the public transportation that may be somewhat<br />
lacking compared to a personal car is the ability to get you somewhere<br />
on time.  You can miss the bus; you can&#8217;t miss your car.  Granted that<br />
you can get stuck in traffic, lose directions, etc., but using the bus<br />
effectively for non-leisure activities requires a great deal of<br />
planning beforehand.  And I for one suck at that.  Even on my good<br />
days. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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