entries from a guestbook i had on smartnet lo these years ago…

60 users have made comments

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name: Orestes Dago
date: 05 Dec 2000
came from: trill.wellsfargo.com
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 4.0) via proxy gateway CERN-HTTPD/3.0 libwww/2.17
comments:

Very nice web site set up!

I am mostly interested in classical guitar and
web development.

Have a nice day!

orestesd.

you can email Orestes Dago or visit his/her homepage.

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name: David Mackenzie
date: 16 Oct 2000
came from: delphis-group.demon.co.uk
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98)
comments:

Big site. Plenty to see.
Are you a fan of "The Prisoner", by chance ?

you can email David
Mackenzie or visit his/her homepage (http://www.tarbrax.freeserve.co.uk/).

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name: Logan Nicholson
date: 22 Sep 2000
came from: dialup-229-treats.whitelion.net
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
comments:

        It was called...AFTERWARDS...
I could survive without you
I wouldn't like the sadness
of watching new snow fall
     alone without you
Nor journey to the mountains
     when they call
Unless---and thru it all
     you will never be alone
     as long as memories last
     and raindrops fall.
jln

you can email Logan Nicholson or visit his/her homepage.

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name: J.Logan Nicholson
date: 22 Sep 2000
came from: dialup-172-treats.whitelion.net
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
comments:

Jeff: I just finished reading a little of your
relationship with your former partner...I am
still crying...and celebrating...I also lost a
partner some years ago..I also wrote poems about
him and us...and I also still (and always shall)
miss him...Life goes on...so do we...it can be no
other way...and it can be beautiful again...or so
it has become for me...Thank you for sharing.

you can email J.Logan Nicholson or visit his/her homepage.

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name: forest stark
date: 01 Jun 2000
came from: proxy-724.public.rwc.webtv.net
using: Mozilla/3.0 WebTV/1.2 (compatible; MSIE 2.0)
comments:

found the disscun groups very interistingit excites my mind to see that someone wants my opion on something other than my thoughts on my job in the sex induresty  

you can email forest stark or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Lalo de Pilar
date: 12 May 2000
came from: spider-wc072.proxy.aol.com
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; AOL 4.0; Mac_PPC)
comments:

Saludos Jeff!

This is a wonderful website. Thank you for giving
us all the opportunity to visit and sign into your
book. I will visit frequently and tell others
about your site. Gracias! Ciao!

Lalo de Pilar
www.flamencofusion.

you can email Lalo de Pilar or visit his/her homepage.

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name: john campea
date: 25 Apr 2000
came from: spider-tf011.proxy.aol.com
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 4.0; Windows 95; DigExt; staff@hsnp.com)
comments:

your tribute to your lover was terrific and very
touching.my emotions run high on meeting you in
person. 

you can email john campea or visit his/her homepage.

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name: john campea
date: 25 Apr 2000
came from: spider-tf011.proxy.aol.com
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 4.0; Windows 95; DigExt; staff@hsnp.com)
comments:

your tribute to your lover was terrific and very
touching.my enituins run high on meeting you in
person. 

you can email john campea or visit his/her homepage.

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name: William Ashburn
date: 25 Apr 2000
came from: hyper3-60.wctc.net
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 95; DigExt)
comments:

Very good homepage. I will be back Love Bill

you can email William Ashburn or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Charles Shaver
date: 26 Feb 2000
came from: 232-045.iocc.com
using: Mozilla/4.7 [en] (Win98; U)
comments:

Jeff I really enjoyed your homepage.
Keep up the good work.
Charles

you can email Charles Shaver or visit his/her homepage.

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name: sassy smith
date: 18 Feb 2000
came from: ketsproxyn6.kde.state.ky.us
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.5; Mac_PowerPC)
comments:

Your website is very good and I will be visiting
it alot

you can email sassy smith or visit his/her homepage.

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name: br. luke anthony nowicki,bsg
date: 15 Feb 2000
came from: hrbgb105-22.splitrock.net
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt; Freei Client 2.51)
comments:

i enjoyed the website, sorry for your loss...
it must have been very difficult for him in the
roman church. i was also a franciscan,then i
left,i am in the anglican church in a community
for married/single or other relationships. i am
truly happy now. Best to you and prayers also.

you can email br. luke anthony nowicki,bsg or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Jim Graham
date: 22 Jan 2000
came from: ppp7.on.bellglobal.com
using: Mozilla/4.05 [en]C-SYMPA (Win95; I)
comments:

Great site, I will be visiting frequently,
                               Jim

you can email Jim Graham or visit
his/her homepage (http://www.mp3.com/jimgraham).

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name: Jeff Delinck
date: 06 Jan 2000
came from: uss.com
using: Mozilla/4.7 [en] (WinNT; U)
comments:

I think you have a great web page. It is full of
useful information.

you can email Jeff Delinck
or visit his/her homepage (http://sites.netscape.net/jadelinck/).

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name: Ronald Vazquez
date: 27 Nov 1999
came from: 207-172-150-176.s49.as10.anp.md.dialup.rcn.com
using: Mozilla/4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686)
comments:

I have seen your name a lot and I thought I should
visit your web site. I'm thankful of so many Linux
experts like yourself. I always get an expert
answer from the mailing list. Your site is really
good, keep it up.

you can email Ronald Vazquez or visit his/her homepage.

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name: RONALD CATALAN
date: 19 Nov 1999
came from: 202.138.137.39
using: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.01; Windows 95)
comments:

WANT TO CHECK NOTES
THANKS

you can email RONALD CATALAN or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Hart
date: 09 Nov 1999
came from: port6.ras1.wizwire.com
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
comments:

Dear J.C.,
Good work...& I'd like to get deeper into it.
Listen, meant to post this on the message board
*but* it just wouldn't come up.  Will keep this
short: Interested in your chord forms --
unfortunately postscript is beyond me.  Last time
I recall trying to use it was (god help us) with
the IRS help system. No luck there either. Any
short hints on this &/or getting to your message
board where others might help?
Anyway, thanx 4 your efforts & keep your flag
(whate'er it be) flyin'.
Sincerely,
Hart

you can email Hart or visit his/her homepage.

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name: albert narvaez
date: 07 Nov 1999
came from: 196-28-55-127.prtc.net
using: Mozilla/4.06 [en]C-gatewaynet (Win98; I)
comments:

could'nt see it all today, but what i saw was
great. will be visiting again soon.

you can email albert narvaez or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Phil
date: 03 Nov 1999
came from: sp2d8.dynamic-dialup.toad.net
using: Mozilla/7.26Platinum (AIX; I; Apple][e)
comments:

Hi, jeff.  I just wanted to see my name up in
lights, as it were.

you can email Phil or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Steve Killen
date: 03 Oct 1999
came from: cc389269-a.catv1.md.home.com
using: Mozilla/4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586)
comments:

Was looking for your HS--didn't find it here.
Then I looked at th' CHAT LOG, and saw what you
said.
Kudos to your webpage.

you can email Steve Killen or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Rick from Chicago
date: 08 Sep 1999
came from: spider-ta033.proxy.aol.com
using: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 2.1; AOL 3.0; Mac_PPC)
comments:

Jeff
    Thanks for being a good friend.

Rick

you can email Rick from Chicago or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Ken McCord
date: 29 Aug 1999
came from: pvl253.jerseycape.net
using: Mozilla/4.61 [en] (Win98; I)
comments:

Jeff,

Just wanted to say 'thanks' for the diald 5-minute
howto.  Until I found it, diald was a four letter
word.

Thanks again,

Ken

you can email Ken McCord or visit his/her

homepage.

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name: Dylan Covey
date: 04 Jul 1999
came from: pm-ppp9.triton.net
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98)
comments:

!@#$%^&*   ?!?

you can email Dylan Covey or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Justin David Covey
date: 04 Jul 1999
came from: pm-ppp9.triton.net
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98)
comments:

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you can email Justin David Covey or visit his/her homepage.

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name: M.ZOHAIB ALEEM
date: 21 Jun 1999
came from: host-248-195.interpacket.net
using: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (Win95; U)
comments:

YOURS SITE IS VERY VERY EXCELLENT.
I REALLY EPECIATE TO U.
PLEASE CONTACT TO ME SOOON
BYE ZOHAIB

you can email M.ZOHAIB ALEEM or visit his/her homepage.

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name: James Wilson
date: 26 Apr 1999
came from: 121.los-angeles-15-20rs.ca.dial-access.att.net
using: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (Win95; I)
comments:

Hi Jeff ,I live in W.Hollywood C.A.
I love making new friends and I am so glad that
the computor industry ,has made it easier for the
computor illiterate(like me) to find those new
friends all over the world.I saw your pics and I
noticed you play the guitar .I am a writer and
singer of R&B. I also write childrens books too.
My time is comeing to be known for all of this ,so
in the time between I work as a hairdresser so I
can feed my two cats ,Puck & Lutin .I am a chubby
guy of 6'2 and I weigh 294lbs and I have very dark
eyes and I have blonde hair ,that I have turned
white(that creative side ya know)Anyway I am
weight and height proportioned and I thought that
I would drop a few lines to you and hope that I
may hear from you .Take care and I just want you
to know that I love the fact that there are more
pages like this one on the net and I am glad to
see that there are men who like us big guys and
are attracted to us and we are to you !
                                   Thanks again
                                      James:

you can email James Wilson or visit his/her homepage.

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name: James Zentner
date: 08 Apr 1999
came from: spider-tr052.proxy.aol.com
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; AOL 4.0; Windows 98)
comments:

surprise I found you here.

you can email James Zentner or visit his/her homepage.

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name: paul gregory
date: 27 Feb 1999
came from: user-2iveglu.dialup.mindspring.com
using: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (Win95; I)
comments:

a very interesting site. i enjoyed my visit.

you can email paul gregory or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Richard Yates
date: 27 Feb 1999
came from: pm3-01-28.sle.du.teleport.com
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95; Snap.home.1)
comments:

The scores pages are a good idea. Worth
supporting. I would be willing to submit scores
of publishing quality. How do I do so? I can
produce TIFF files and maybe EPS files (they do
not always compile correctly from my music
scoring software.)

Richard Yates
 

you can email Richard Yates or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Tim Stevens
date: 05 Feb 1999
came from: morrigan.ili.net
using: Mozilla/3.0 (Win95; U)
comments:

HOWDY MOST HOSTFUL ONE! I just thought I'd stop by
to say keep up the good work. Your site & the
suggestions you offer to those silverfoxes & their
admirers have been helpful to me. I, myself, have
experienced the loss of my lover among many other
loved ones in '96. I'm doing my best to live on
but it does get difficult. At times I fear I'm
trying to replace my lover with a carbon copy. I
do have some friends who are helping me move on
but I have trouble at times letting go of the
past. Well enough of the past, so keep up the good
work for the future!!!

you can email Tim Stevens or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Darrell Golliher
date: 14 Jan 1999
came from: ent.coe.uga.edu
using: Mozilla/4.08 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686)
comments:

Just surfed in to grab your html-helper-mode RPM.

Thank's for putting it together..



cheers,

you can email Darrell Golliher or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Rex Allen
date: 26 Oct 1998
came from: spider-we054.proxy.aol.com
using: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.02; Update a; AOL 4.0; Windows 95)
comments:

Just found your web site and have not really looked at it
yet. But if it has anything to do with older men I am in the right
place.

you can email Rex Allen or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Sandra Seth
date: 08 Sep 1998
came from: 209.47.137.228
using: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.01; Mac_PowerPC)
comments:

My deepest condolences on Dan's passing. What a touching tribute
to a profound and magical friendship. I hope that you have negotiated
the labyrinth of bereavement sucessfully. I found your site browsing
for guitar music and was rewarded with a glimpse of you and your
creativity. Thank you. 

you can email Sandra Seth or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Simon Gerber
date: 29 Aug 1998
came from: lu-ppp09.tic.ch
using: Mozilla/4.05 [en] (WinNT; I)
comments:

More info in  a Privat E-mail.



Master Z.

you can email Simon Gerber or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Thomas Harding
date: 31 Jul 1998
came from: cnet187.bluecrab.org
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95)
comments:

Hi.again made a mistake the first time I

signguest book my e-mail address is not

thomas@skip.bluecrab.org

you can email Thomas Harding or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Thomas Harding
date: 31 Jul 1998
came from: cnet187.bluecrab.org
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95)
comments:

Nice ,I am 38 yrs. old but love older bears.

Great visit.

you can email Thomas Harding or visit his/her homepage.

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name: John Stiers
date: 04 Jul 1998
came from: dasc18-125.flash.net
using: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (Win95; I)
comments:

Hi,jeff.  what a great site!  one to be proud of,

i'm sure.   found your page via pink and grey,

linked to silver fox.

enjoy reading and "learning" re: html.  though,

htmgen32, is "well" beyond me at this point,  I'm

learning fast.  will visit you frequently.

Keep up the great work, we need it.

you can email John Stiers or visit his/her homepage.

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name: bob
date: 01 Jul 1998
came from: spider-tm033.proxy.aol.com
using: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.01; AOL 4.0; Windows 95)
comments:

I ENJOUY LOOKING AT THE INFO. IN YOU WEB PAGE

you can email bob or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Mark
date: 11 Jun 1998
came from: ip130.chicago3.il.pub-ip.psi.net
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95)
comments:

Nice site. I especially like the page with

performance tips. Very well written.

you can email Mark or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Jeff Muscato
date: 02 Jun 1998
came from: p131.como.socket.net
using: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.0; Windows 95)
comments:

Cool site!  I gotta go see ya!

you can email Jeff Muscato or visit his/her homepage.

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name: ‘Rafael
date: 29 Mar 1998
came from: 200.241.3.131
using: Mozilla/4.01 [en] (Win95; I)
comments:

Nice and clean HP. Simply simple and elegant!

A real worth bookmark

you can email ‘Rafael or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Rocco
date: 18 Mar 1998
came from: 1cust118.max48.new-york.ny.ms.uu.net
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; MSN 2.5; MSN 2.5; Windows 95)
comments:

Thanks for responding, altough I still cannot

make sense of it, I remain eternally optimistic

that one day I will graduate from geekdom and be

able to figure out how to gain access. Thanks for

your time and patience.

you can email Rocco or visit his/her homepage.

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name: jazz
date: 13 Mar 1998
came from: dialup-vsa000.qnet.fi
using: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (Win95; I)
comments:

DOES IT WORK?

you can email jazz or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Ryusho Joaquin Salazar
date: 08 Mar 1998
came from: bay125.codetel.net.do
using: Mozilla/1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit)
comments:

Hi, Jeff!
I always enjoy your web page from the times of the Baltimore Zen
Meditation Society. So sorry it went under! The web page was very
good. I am Director of the Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic) Zen
Center. I would be very interested in a good web page. I will be
spending a month soon at the Zen Mountain Monastery at Mt. Tremper,
after I am planning to go ti India and Nepal to visit the Buddhist
sites. Anyway, don't want to make this too long, if you happen to
stray into this area, give us a call (809) 567-8244, we will show you
some nice beaches and also do some sitting. we have are building a
nice mountain retreat site and are planning to offer some "Dharma
vacation" arrangements for those who want to come and practice but
also see a very beatiful country. Take care. We will keep entering
your site and saying hello! Ryusho (Dharma name), I am an ordained lay
monk. Bye.
Ryusho

you can email Ryusho Joaquin Salazar or visit his/her homepage.

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name: George James
date: 22 Feb 1998
came from: 207-172-207-174.s47.as7.blb.erols.com
using: Mozilla/3.01C-KIT (Win95; I)
comments:

Hi, Jeff. I must say, I really enjoyed your

homepage. The tribute to Dan was very touching and

admirable. I am so sorry for your loss. 

you can email George James or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Gary A. marcus
date: 04 Feb 1998
came from: 207-172-128-101.s38.as2.col.erols.com
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95; DH101397)
comments:

Hello Jeff,

I enjoyed your web/home page more than I can

express here. I will also be leaving you a more

personal e=mail message. Here is my continued

support  for your talents and creativity. Just

keep on doing what you are doing, it is

wonderfull.

you can email Gary A. marcus or visit his/her homepage.

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name: John N. Stewart
date: 20 Jan 1998
came from: du100-pcap-nca01.wgn.net
using: Mozilla/3.0Gold (Win95; U)
comments:

Thoroughly enjoyed listening to your original

compositions and other works.  I write some myself

and it was very inspirational to hear what you are

doing.   Thanks,  John

you can email John N. Stewart or visit his/her homepage.

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name: jiab poti
date: 16 Jan 1998
came from: alpha.egat.or.th
using: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.01; Windows 95)
comments:

Jeff,      It's wonderful to know that i still have somebody to
get to chat with especially from your friendly page. please keep on
your good intention to all of us.

you can email jiab poti or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Nils Måbuholt
date: 13 Jan 1998
came from: ti34a03-0025.dialup.online.no
using: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win95; I)
comments:

You have a very great homepage!



Sorry that your best friend dead.

Also my lover dead. Hope to find a new one very

soon. Also hope that you will find a new one.



Thanks for sharing your homepage with everyone!

you can email Nils Måbuholt or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Doug
date: 10 Jan 1998
came from: 195.44.20.124
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95)
comments:

Wonderful web site. I found it entertaining,

moving and loved the music - you have many

talents, thanks for sharing them with us.



Heard of you - on the sf mailing list - and

thought Id check you out - good luck and peace to

you.

you can email Doug or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Gordon
date: 05 Jan 1998
came from: ppp36.intranet.ca
using: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win95; U)
comments:

Your homepage is DELIGHTFUL in every way. It has

been a pleasure "thumbing" through it.  I have

also bookmarked it.  My sincere though belated

condolescences on the passing of your partner.  I

know you must have loved him very much, and that

you made him a very proud and happy man.  I am a

newcomer to the Silver Fox mailing list.  Gordon

you can email Gordon or visit his/her homepage.

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name: John C. Love
date: 04 Jan 1998
came from: ip116.baltimore.md.pub-ip.psi.net
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95)
comments:

Your memorial to your departed lover is very

touching - he would (and you should) be proud.

The love is obvious.

you can email John C. Love or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Athanasio
date: 14 Dec 1997
came from: athe-o02.otenet.gr
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95)
comments:

  My friend Jeff



Like invited I am very happy and gland where I

passed from your page. I enjoyed really .

In one way we like eachother because :





______________________________________





Be good , and if you can't be good , be careful !



                           With my love

                                      ATHANASIO

you can email Athanasio > or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Brave Young
date: 08 Dec 1997
came from: 202.130.253.175
using: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.01; Windows 95)
comments:

I want to see guitar music scores and lectures on my screen! 

you can email Brave Young or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Wally Lush
date: 07 Dec 1997
came from: ip203-9.cc.interlog.com
using: Mozilla/3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
comments:

You are obviously a kind, gentle and loving

person.  I thoroughly enjoyed going through your

"life".  Pity you're so far away!

you can email Wally Lush or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Richard “Dick” C. Lee
date: 29 Nov 1997
came from: 208.144.214.34
using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95)
comments:

For the past couple of months I have been trying

to find some information on you and I can't.  I

finally find you on Silver Fox List and the

homepage address that you say is correct - I

can't pull up.  Help me find out about you.  I

like the info on the SilverFox list and your

questions and comments and your humor.  Let me

know how to really get to know you and if

possible see a picture of you.  Looking forward

to your response.  Thank you!



Dick Lee                porker@vgernet.net

you can email Richard “Dick” C. Lee or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Gui
date: 07 Nov 1997
came from: pm119-01.dialip.mich.net
using: Mozilla/3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
comments:

I guess you're the guy responsible for the great

Silverfox Archive...  Nicely done.  My condolences

about Dan.   It seemed your love for him speaks

very highly of you.  I never visited an electronic

mausoleum.  It made me weep.  God bless.

you can email Gui or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Bill Covey
date: 30 Oct 1997
came from: 1cust76.max14.dallas.tx.ms.uu.net
using: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.01; MSN 2.0; Windows 95)
comments:

I collect information on the Covey name.  I now have about 1000
pages on Excell and will share information.

 bcovey@msn.com

you can email Bill Covey or visit his/her homepage.

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name: George Allen
date: 08 Oct 1997
came from: ppp-207-193-16-17.hstntx.swbell.net
using: Mozilla/3.01C-SBXA (Win95; I)
comments:

Hi Jeff, just wanted to see what you look like (very nice) after
seeing so many messages from you on the silverfox mail page. Thanks
for all your comments. I enjoy them very much.

you can email George Allen or visit his/her homepage.

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name: Hal Whitmore
date: 07 Oct 1997
came from: slip-129-37-89-86.de.us.ibm.net
using: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.0; Update a; Windows 95)
comments:

In response to your invitation, it appears I am the first after
you to sign your guest book. I enjoyed your pages even with the "old"
guest book.

you can email Hal Whitmore or visit his/her homepage.

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